The Wind of Christianity Past
(Sermon Outline)
1)Â Â Â Â Â The Worldwide Liberation Movement
a)Â Â Â Â Â Â Very excited to be a part of it, but challenge that it is imperative that we see things this way.
b)     2 Corinthians 10:4–6 (ESV) — 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. 5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ, 6 being ready to punish every disobedience, when your obedience is complete. (GIVE JUSTICE/RIGHTEOUSNESS)
c)      Ideas, dreams and perceptions – The way we see the world has power to create the world!
i)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â What is worth living for?
ii)Â Â Â Â Â Â What is God like?
iii)Â Â Â Â What is normal Christianity?
iv)Â Â Â Â Can or should we trust people?
v)Â Â Â Â Â Â Is there hope for the future?
vi)Â Â Â Â Who are you, why are you here, where are you going?
d)     Romans 12:2a (NIV84) — 2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
e)     2 Timothy 3:16–17 (NIV84) — 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. – BUT WHAT IF WE DO NOT SEE CORRECTLY?
f)       The current state of the world can be attributed to a lack of revelation concerning God’s Word
i)       Luther and Augustine – the rock the builds the church – revelation through God’s word.
g)      IDEAS AND DREAMS ARE INFECTIONS – WE NEED TO BREAK OUT, SEE DIFFERENTLY AND INFECT THE WORLD!
2)Â Â Â Â Â Breaking out of mindsets so we can liberate others
a)      The problem is nothing new. Lewis wrote: Every age has its own outlook. It is specially good at seeing certain truths and specially liable to make certain mistakes. We all, therefore, need the books that will correct the characteristic mistakes of our own period…None of us can fully escape this blindness, but we shall certainly increase it, and weaken our guard against it, if we read only modern books. Where they are true they will give us truths which we half knew already. Where they are false they will aggravate the error with which we are already dangerously ill. The only palliative is to keep the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.[1]
b)Â Â Â Â Â Please bear with me as we explore the wind of centuries to connect with a great tradition and our Inheritance of faith.Â
c)Â Â Â Â Â Â Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about. All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death[2]
3)Â Â Â Â Â Memories of Christianity Past
a)      Athanasius on the Incarnation (truncated) – Lewis’ inspiration: If this proof of his resurrection is not sufficient for anyone, then let him believe what is said from what takes place before his eyes…let him who will, see and judge, confessing the truth from the visible facts. For since the Savior works so many things among human beings, and daily in every place invisibly persuades such a great multitude, both from those who dwell in Greece and in the foreign lands, to turn to his faith and all to obey his teaching, would anyone still have doubt in their mind whether the resurrection has been accomplished by the Savior, and whether Christ is alive, or rather is himself the Life? Is it like a dead man to prick the minds of human beings so that they deny their father’s laws and revere the teaching of Christ? Or how, if he is not acting—for this is a property of one dead—does he stop those active and alive so that the adulterer no longer commits adultery, the murderer no longer murders, the unjust is no longer grasps greedily, and the impious is henceforth pious? How, if he is not risen but dead, does he stop and drive out and cast down those false gods said by unbelievers to be alive and the demons they worship? For where Christ and his faith are named, there all idolatry is purged away, every deceit of demons refuted, and no demon endures the name but fleeing, only hearing it, disappears. This is not the work of one dead, but of one alive, and especially of God.[3]
b)     I want to read something written by a Presbyterian minister in 1896 – A NOTED scoffer was once arrested in his noisy invective against Christianity by two simple questions, to which a direct and candid answer was challenged: What would be the effect upon the world if all men were sincere Christians? and, on the other hand, what would be the effect upon the world if all men were consistent infidels? In the silence which followed these questions was manifested the skeptic’s defeat. For you observe that he could not return a truthful answer to one or the other without abandoning his own case. The argument is a valid one, founded upon the moral effect of the two systems as compared one with the other. If Christianity is found to be a system whose principles, heartily adopted, will relieve the world of most of the evils by which it is oppressed and convert this earth into a paradise, then, surely, it is the last of all systems that men ought to decry. If, on the other hand, infidelity, overturning Christianity, destroys the foundations on which all virtue and morality are based, then it is the last of all systems that ought to be upheld. The text sets forth this transforming power of the gospel over the characters and lives of men.[4]
c)Â Â Â Â Â Â Remembering and Awakening
d)     Who are we, why are we here and where are we going? The worldwide liberation movement!
4)Â Â Â Â Â The journey home to normal Christianity
a)Â Â Â Â Â Â This message is in response to a discussion on Wednesday night about many people who say they either do not believe or go to church because they have been hurt by churches and Christianity.
b)Â Â Â Â Â We have to be honest about many of the faults of the church but we also need to assess them in light of the battle for liberty.
c)      We need to rest people’s faith and confidence squarely in Christ
i)       Mary Lou’s Mom – We come because we have found Him good and worthy of our lives. We become part of the solution
ii)Â Â Â Â Â Â We need to see and proclaim where God is at work.
d)Â Â Â Â Â We need to see where we are going and call people onto the journey
i)       Talking with Dr. Christie this week – Media, money and what is wrong instead of calling people to be who we are called to be.
5)Â Â Â Â Â WE NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT
a)Â Â Â Â Â Â The wind of Christianity past.
b)     Hebrews 12:1–2 (NKJV) — 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
c)      2 Corinthians 3:14–18 (NKJV) — 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.
[1] Athanasius, Saint, Patriarch of Alexandria. On the Incarnation: Saint Athanasius (Popular Patristics Series Book 44) (p. 6). St Vladimir’s Seminary Press. Kindle Edition.
[2] Gilbert K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy. (New York: John Lane Company, 1909), 85.
[3] Athanasius, Saint, Patriarch of Alexandria. On the Incarnation: Saint Athanasius (Popular Patristics Series Book 44) (p. 53). St Vladimir’s Seminary Press. Kindle Edition.
[4] Palmer, B. M. (1896). The Transforming Power of the Gospel. In Southern Presbyterian Pulpit: A Collection of Sermons (p. 9). Richmond, VA: The Presbyterian Committee of Publication.
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I’m really excited Something I’ve noticed in my own life is that sometimes habits are ingrained So there’s many times where I was driving down 29 with the intention not to come to the church
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and then realized oh my gosh I went past where I was supposed to go because in my programming I meant to go to church
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And so now I love what we’re doing with communion But it is definitely I was really enjoying watching Pastor David do it because I had the same problem Oh that’s right It’s changed and I love change But I do find that change sometimes is challenging but it is really exciting what the Lord is doing here And again I just want to before we get into the message just thank everybody that has been a part of the church relaunch especially
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Mel for his really taking the lead on a lot of that It really is exciting to me to see how many people really showed up from the moment that that was initiated or inaugurated You could really see that the Lord was at work in our body and among our members because the amount of people that participated was very impressive And the people who couldn’t make the times that we did it
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many of them said I am still part of this and they are actually active in doing things We can thank Bill and Lauda but especially Lauda for the bulletins just amazing the amount of people that have stepped up And I just want to say thank you thank you everybody
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So father we just come
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before you and we just
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pray God that you would just pour out your Holy Spirit upon us this morning
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Lord that the wind of your spirit would
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blow that we would be changed that we would be transformed and that we would go out into this world and bring the light and the hope of the gospel of Jesus Christ We just pray that your word would be quickened in our spirit today in Jesus name
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So the title of today’s message is the
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Wind of Christianity Past
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And the last thing I
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did this morning was change the name of the message
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And the and the reason why is
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originally
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I I was talking about the memory of Christianity past
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And even when I just say
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that name it just it just moves me so deeply
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but it’s the wind of Christianity past because the wind of the spirit has been blowing since the day of Pentecost and we can set up ourselves get hold of that wind and we can see what Jesus Christ can do in our generation and do in our nation and do right where we live
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And that’s exciting to me
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One of the ways that we have called the gospel of Jesus Christ in our church in recent years is the worldwide liberation movement
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in talking about change
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Part of the
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idea is that thinking about the
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gospel in a different term actually changes the whole way that we see it the whole way that we interact with it The whole level of
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expectation that we have If we say the gospel of Jesus
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Christ it often brings certain
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ideas into the forefront of our memory
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And when we reit
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it the worldwide liberation movement it brings a whole different set of ideas that the
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gospel of Jesus Christ is saving the world that the gospel of Jesus Christ is setting the captives free that the gospel of Jesus Christ is transforming lives today
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And I think that
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that’s very exciting and I’m so
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grateful to be a part of the worldwide liberation movement
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In other words to be part of the gospel of Jesus Christ in his kingdom because he is awesome
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I wanna read Second Corinthians 10 4 through six to you
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It says for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh
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I think this is so amazing because we’re talking about the worldwide Liberation Movement There are strongholds of darkness in the nations and in communities and in families and in people’s lives
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And a lot of times people look at these strongholds and they think it’s impossible to go free And a lot of times people are looking about in their own lives and looking at the things that have held them back and robbed them of life or beat them down and they think there’s no way to break through
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And so Paul comes and he just starts with the weapons of our warfare because we’re not to give in We’re not to give up We’re meant to stand against them We’re meant to fight we’re not meant to cower
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and he wants to even that one little word There has so much power the weapons with which we fight this battle against every form of Brokenness and hurt and injustice and in pain and bondage the weapons that we fight against it are not
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fleshly
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but they are mighty in God mighty in God And they have divine power to destroy strongholds
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we destroy
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And now it’s so interesting to me here
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and you say I keep pausing in the middle of the scripture and I apologize for that but
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it’s worth pausing
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We’re talking about strong holds that we need to liberate people from And then his next word is we destroy arguments in every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God
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that the first place of warfare The first place of bondage is in the world view or in the opinions or in the mindsets or in the vision or how we perceive What
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do you see This is nothing but a carpenter So
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where you are the Christ the son of the living God
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there’s no hope for the future
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Jesus has power to heal and to save What is it to God to say your sins are forgiven or to say to a dead nation rise and live again
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What do you see Strongholds mindsets opinions contrary to the knowledge of God taking every thought captive to obey Christ
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every thought captive to King Jesus He is lord over all
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Mm
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And then it has this is the funniest English translation of a Greek passage Not maybe in all of scripture but it’s pretty darn funny
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Being ready to punish every disobedience Once your obedience is complete
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that is so
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one of the hardest things about translating
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language is that it is not easy
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So that word
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there that it’s talking about could be to give
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justice if you look in the lexicons But if you really look at the word it’s connected to righteousness
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right So put the idea this way being ready to bring forth justice or righteousness
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Once ours is complete
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the whole imagery here is bringing every thought into the obedience of Christ to transform the world and liberate people from strongholds And we are only able to do that once we can see things truly as they are Once our perceptions have been set free to see who God is
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and how glorious and powerful the blood of Jesus
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Christ is to break every yoke and every bondage to set people free And once we start to see that and believe
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it we start to experience it
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Be it done to you According to your faith the greatest
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limitation on the
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power of God is unbelief
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unbelief Be it done to you according to your faith And you have to believe
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that God exists and He rewards those that diligently seek
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Him You have to believe that if you call on His name you will be saved You have to believe that there’s no bondage there’s no trial there’s no tribulation There is no situation that you’re going through that If you don’t call upon his name you will be saved
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Two members of
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our congregation this week said to me the Lord was speaking to him about James You don’t have because you don’t ask And they said it was just that simple You don’t have because you don’t ask And I would dare to say and we don’t ask because we don’t think we’ll get anything from Him We don’t believe that
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He’ll answer prayer We don’t believe that God will break the yoke that God will do what He says He will do Oh Lord deliver us from
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our unbelief
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deliver us
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from our own belief and show the world once again
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that you are mighty to save mighty to heal
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mighty to deliver mighty to redeem able to show yourself
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to the person in the darkest bondage and to bring them out of captivity
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Because that’s the Jesus that we serve
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Ideas dreams
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and perceptions
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the way we see the world has the power to create the world
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the way we see the world has the power to create the world
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Because ideas and dreams are infectious
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and that’s how strongholds are created and it’s how strongholds are broken
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Some questions
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what is worth living for
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What an important question isn’t it
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What is God like
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What is normal
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Christianity can or should we trust people
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Is there hope for the future
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as we’ve been talking about in recent weeks Who are you
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Why are you
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here And I added in where are you going
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These kind of questions are answered out of how we see the world how we see reality what we believe to be true and our answers to these questions change the world They really do
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Last week due brought an awesome message
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focusing on Romans 12 2 And I’m going to read just the first part of that Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind
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Do not be conformed to the pattern of this world The pattern of this world is a pattern of selfishness of bondage of hopelessness of despair of fear
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The pattern of this world is dead
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and here it tells us that we can break out of the pattern of this world by being transformed through the renewing of our minds
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So many people believe that they are stuck in this pattern and don’t believe that there’s any way to break that pattern But the patterns of this world are broken when our minds are transformed when they’re renewed
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And that’s exciting to me and it connected to Second Timothy 3 16 through 17 all scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching rebuking correcting and training in righteousness
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once your righteousness is fulfilled
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so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good
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work
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It’s amazing when you read scripture and you let it actually speak to you You can be thoroughly equipped for every good work And it says that scripture has the power to do it
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But do we really believe that scripture has the power to equip us for every good work
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Well how could scripture equip us for every good work Because as we read it we are hearing the voice of God speak He’s painting pictures and changing the way we see He’s changing the way we perceive He’s changing the dreams that we
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have And all of the sudden our lives start to come into obedience to it
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Isn’t that pretty cool
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The word of God changes your life when you come to it by faith and say Lord I need to see you Lord I need to encounter you I need to have your mind I need to have your heart
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and it breaks bondage it breaks yokes in your life I have seen it with my own eyes where people were struggling under bondage And then they heard the word of God and it was not just reading the Bible I’ve seen times when the word was being preached and somebody had a revelation and that
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next thing you know their whole life is transformed where I’ve heard testimonies of people who were suffering under bondage and they heard the word of God spoken in such a way that the spirit of God quickened it to them And they walked out of incredible bondage
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And it really is possible any time we gather and the word of God is being preached or any time we go and read the word it’s possible that you could have an encounter with Jesus Christ that would change your life forever
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Ask Him for it
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You don’t have because you don’t ask
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but ask and you’ll see that the Lord is faithful and he keeps his promises and he will do what he says he will do
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He is good
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But one of the challenges that we have is that sometimes
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we become so familiar with the way scripture
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is understood in modern times
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that it becomes robbed of its power
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I would say that the current state of the world can be attributed
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to a lack of revelation concerning God’s word
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I I love The historian who said that
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Western Europe was about to fall to Machiavellian values
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And then a monk named Martin Luther wrote a book
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that changed the whole direction of Western civilization
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that got them to see Jesus in servant leadership as the way forward It’s what to aspire to be rather than the will to power very relevant for our day isn’t it But if we think about it there was a real
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totalitarian form of dead
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Christianity that governed over western civilization
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And Martin Luther wrestled and wrestled with the bondage of not being good enough
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And then he’s reading scripture one day and it was like lightning struck him
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I am saved by grace through faith apart from works
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And it was like he passed from death to life It was like he was groping in darkness and suddenly a glorious light shined
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and it lit a fire
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in him that set a whole trajectory
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because he had an encounter with God through God’s word It happened with Augustine It happened with so many great people throughout the ages
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that God’s word was quickened by the power of the Holy Spirit and their whole lives were
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changed forever
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But when there’s little revelation in the church when people aren’t encountering this daily bread daily going from faith to faith and glory to
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glory we’re being robbed
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of our inheritance and our heritage
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but we can we can awaken
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I’ll say it again Ideas and dreams are infectious because it’s not just bad dreams false dreams like Machiavellian politics but it’s also the dream of the Kingdom of God and Jesus Christ That is also infectious Ideas and dreams are infectious We need to break out and see differently infect the whole world with a better dream
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We need to break out of mindsets so that we can liberate others
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CS Lewis
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talks about this
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He wrote every age has its own outlook It is especially good at seeing certain truths and especially liable to make certain mistakes We all therefore need books that will correct the
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characteristic mistakes of our own
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period
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None of us can fully escape this blindness but we shall certainly increase
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it and weaken our guard against it If we read
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only modern books where they are true they will give us truth which we have knew already where they are false they will aggravate the error
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with which we already
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are dangerously ill The only palliative to keep the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our minds is to keep that
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blowing through our minds And this can only be done by reading old books
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In other words Lewis was understanding that there are ideas or mindsets that are part of a generation and part of a culture that people need to break out of
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And he talked about well if you could get your hands on the books of the future they would really help but we can’t get our hands on the books of the Future but we can get our hands on the books of the past
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and that those books of the past can be become a corrective to help us find our way out of the things that are robbing
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people of life today Isn’t
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that an interesting perspective
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So please bear with
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me as we
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explore the wind of
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centuries to connect with a great tradition and the inheritance of our faith
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Chesterton wrote tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes
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our ancestors
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It is the democracy of the dead
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tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about
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All Democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth tradition
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objects to their being disqualified by the accident of their death
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Beautiful
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thought I wonder if Lewis didn’t
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get his idea
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about reading old books from his friend Chesterton
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thinking about things like that that he said
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because Lewis wrote that book that that quote from Lewis came in the introduction to Athena book on the incarnation of Jesus Christ
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And that’s what I want I want to read a passage out of that and then a passage out of a Presbyterian Minister from the 18 hundreds
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to give us a picture of how they saw Christianity
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in their day
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to see how it might challenge how we see Christianity in our day
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Athanasius was giving giving proof on the resurrection of Jesus Christ And he talked pretty in depth about the cross of Jesus Christ and why he had to die on a cross And then he writes
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this if this proof of his resurrection is not sufficient for anyone
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then let him believe what is said from what takes place before his eyes
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at is saying if you don’t believe everything I just said then at least believe your own eyes think about the boldness that he can make this statement with confidence in his generation Believe your own eyes
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let him who will see and judge confessing the truth from the visible facts for since the savior works so many things among human beings and daily and every place invisibly persuades such a great multitude both from those who dwell
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in Greece and in foreign lands to turn to his faith and to obey his teaching Would anyone still doubt in their minds whether the resurrection has been accomplished by the savior And whether Christ is alive or rather is himself the life
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It is like a is it like a dead man to prick the minds of human beings so that they deny their father’s laws and revere the teaching of Christ
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Or how if he is not acting for this is a property of one dead Does he stop those active and alive so that the adult no longer commits adultery and the murderer no longer commits murders and the unjust no longer grasps greedily and the impious is henceforth pious How if he has not risen from the dead Does he stop and drive out and cast down those false gods said by unbelievers to be alive in the demons they worship
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for where Christ and his faith are named They all idolatry is purged away Every deceit of demons is refuted and no demon endures the name but fleeing only hearing it disappears This is not the work of
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one dead but one alive
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and especially
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God
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what a picture of normal
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Christianity He just painted before our
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eyes
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If you don’t believe all of the arguments that I’m giving you then open up your eyes and look look at how many lives are being transformed A dead person can’t do this He’s alive He has risen He is resurrected from the dead And wherever Christ is proclaimed every bondage is broken and the captives go free It really is a worldwide liberation movement And when the church saw it this way that’s when they changed the whole world
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But when they quit seeing it this way then the assault has lost its saltiness
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When we do not see the gospel of Jesus Christ as having this much power then we don’t see that power acting anymore
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But when we dare to renew our mind and expect more we will see more And when we wrestle with God and say Lord God I believe help my unbelief he will help our unbelief and transform us And we will see what He says is normal because his promises never fail
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But we need to wrestle with God and wrestle with these kind of things until we realize that we have fallen short But
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we can
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we can see revival
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Here’s something written by a Presbyterian minister in 18 96 to see that it’s not even that far back
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that we have to go
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to catch a glimpse of something different
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A noted scoffer was once arrested and is noisy and v against Christianity by two simple questions to which a direct and candid answer was challenged
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What would be the effect upon the world if all men were sincere Christians
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And on the other hand what would be the effect upon the world if all men were consistent infidels
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and the silence which followed these questions was manifested the skeptics defeat for you observe that he could not return a truthful answer to one or the other without abandoning his own case
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The argument is a valid one founded upon the moral effect of the two systems as compared one with the other If Christianity is found to be a system whose principles heartily adopted will relieve the world of most of the evils by which it is oppressed and convert this earth into a paradise
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Rewind
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A minister of the gospel believed that it would have this much impact on the world
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That one clause there is so revolutionary it’s a voice from the past a wind from the past It’s a cloud of witnesses saying wake up
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I’ll read it again
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The argument is a valid one founded upon the moral effect of the two systems as compared one with
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the other
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If Christianity is found to be a system whose principles hardily adopted will relieve the world of most of the evils by which it is oppressed and convert
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this earth into a paradise
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People would strike you down as a heretic for preaching that in
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many churches today
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I’m not joking
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It’s a completely different
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way of seeing
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that can correct the errors of our present time
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Convert this earth into a paradise Then surely it is the last of all systems that men ought to decry If on the
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other hand infidelity overturning Christianity destroys the foundations on which all virtue and morality are based then it is the last of all systems that ought to be upheld
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Isn’t that incredible
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to think that he would say to an unbeliever who is going off against Jesus Christ against Christianity and against the gospel Let me ask you questions
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and those questions stopped him in his tracks because he couldn’t
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deny
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the answer to that
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But what that tells me is that the Christianity that he was
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accustomed to
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saw things a certain way
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that it got into his mindset
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or got into a mindset of a generation or of a
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culture that they spread the word of God abroad into the culture in such a way that even the unbelievers couldn’t
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deny it
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Do you see what I’m saying
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But here’s the shocking
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part
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I’m going to get into it later Hopefully by God’s grace
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is that God has never changed
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His gospel has never changed
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The power of his holy spirit has never changed
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Jesus walked
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on this earth and miracles signs and wonders healing and deliverance happened all over But many people were blind and couldn’t see it
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A lot of people are saying where are signs and wonders and miracles and they happen every single day
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because nothing has changed But what has changed is a blindness
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to not see reality
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Miracle signs and wonders have never ceased and they have never stopped
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and transform lives has never stopped either
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but the eyes no longer see it And because our eyes don’t see it because we don’t highlight it
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We don’t spread these ideas into the culture in such a way that people can see it too
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Opening the eyes of the blind causing the death to hear causing the sick to be healed causing the dead to be raised
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It’s awesome isn’t it
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And the reason I say that we heard it last week with Roy we heard it with Due talking about what they were like before Jesus Christ came into their lives
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in the total transformation
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Many multitudes of believers throughout the ages could give that same testimony
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Multitudes today can give that same testimony
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But we are so quick to forget
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We are so slow to see
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and proclaim and help people to see
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the journey home to normal Christianity I I really
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wanted to read those
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passages because I do believe what I just said that there are signs and wonders and miracles they never stopped
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But I would say that we are not at a point today in our culture where we can say with Athanasius to the unbeliever
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If you don’t believe everything I’m saying then believe your eyes
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does that make sense
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But I believe when we start to expect that and hold that to be normal Christianity or when we start to dare to believe again what that pastor was speaking about that it will
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what was the exact words relieve the world of most of the evils by which it is oppressed and convert this earth into a paradise that the gospel has that power
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Then we will start to see that power manifested in a greater measure It has never stopped God has never let us be without a witness in the earth but the light can be turned on a lot brighter
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Things can be turned on a whole lot brighter And that’s what we want to do That’s what we want to seek as a people as a community That’s how we want to renew our minds and start to infect the world with these kind of ideas
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because that’s how we break the yoke That’s how we storm the gates of hell That’s how we prevail And to me it’s exciting
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Well part of this message was in response to a discussion we were having a Wednesday night at our life group
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and this was a discussion that had been ironically had with the pastor about a week previously that
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so many people in our culture are saying I don’t
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believe because I was hurt by Christians or I was hurt by the church
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right
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And and and that and that testimony is is something to be wrestled with right
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The kind of Christianity But it comes from this idea that the type of Christianity that we’re talking
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about
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creates life and love in a
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culture
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that’s transformative right And a lot of people do go to a lot of churches where if you don’t conform to the external
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expectations you get beaten to a pulp
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right
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there We’ve seen many big Christian ministers fall the the the the litany of
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failures is there
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But I was saying but so if we had eyes to see among the people
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there’s the litany and cloud of witnesses of transformed lives
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And we’ve got to take the rise from there to there
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and we need to fix our eyes from you can’t judge Jesus Christ by the false church
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Number one the devil understands listen this gospel of Jesus Christ will set people free and cause paradise on earth It will heal most of the ills of this world We have to undermine what God is doing in the world How are we going to do it What is your strategy We are going to raise up a false church
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to defame the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ
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And so if we’re looking to the false church as our measure
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we’re letting the devil win
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But the world has never been without the true church But it’s time for the true church to grow and multiply and fill the earth Does that make sense It’s exciting to me But number two and this is why like Mary Lou had to say about her mom
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because the other aspect is that is one of the strongholds that we are fighting today I don’t go to church because all the bad people in church or how church hurt me And I’m not undermining the reality of that experience But it’s really I’m using that tone to get at us
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because what that is is it’s like it’s a warfare it’s a wrestling and the fault is with us that it’s highlighting a mistake that we have let there be
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a weak point in our wall
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And that weak point in our wall is we’ve made Christianity too much about us about me and my experience about me and how people treat me and me and what I got out of it And Mary Lou was like growing up my mom was always about one thing we’re going I don’t care about any of that
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Why Because he’s worthy
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and we go because he’s worthy and we go to honor him and no matter what happens among the people he is good and he’s worthy to be trusted and he’s worthy to be followed And if we would set that foundation right from the beginning very few would fall away
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You see what I’m saying It’s highlighting our failures to set people a right
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It’s true We want to love one
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another the heart of the gospel beloved love one another Yes it’s true that we want this kind of Christianity that’s full of transformed lives
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But Paul says even if people preach Christ for selfish ambition and wrong reasons I rejoice that he’s being proclaimed Why Because he still has the power to save and to heal and to set free And what
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if the whole world
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had fallen into darkness and the whole world was gone
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astray What if the only thing that believing in Jesus Christ was to bring you was trials tribulations and persecutions in this life
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and you are the only
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one left He is still worthy for you to bend your knee and say Lord I want to live for you
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You are worth my life You are worth everything
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You are that treasure you are that pearl and to walk away from you is to walk away from my very life
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We need to create a stronger breed of Christians in this earth
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that are not so easily offended that are not so easily
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blow
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tossed to and fro like the waves of the sea of people who follow Jesus
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Lord Though if the if they fall all around me Lord I’m still gonna say blessed be the name of the Lord That’s the kind of Christians we need
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to raise up
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that follow him and serve him That can say like Elijah
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what have you been doing Elijah I’ve been very zealous for the Lord my God but I’m the only one left
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Well that’s how it can feel in an hour of darkness But God says you’re wrong Elijah you don’t see reality because I have hidden my own and they’re still there
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But he burned with holy fire because the altar of the Lord was in ruins and the people were worshiping bail
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and tyranny and oppression and injustice reign
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But Almighty God has the power to turn the tide
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Almighty God has the power to break every yoke almighty God has the power to glorify his name
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if we only dare to believe and
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call on his name
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One of my favorite passage is simply this in those days men began to call
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upon the name of the Lord
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call upon him and he will
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answer
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and he will show you
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great and mighty things He is the God of miracles He is the God of answered
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prayer He is the God that breaks the yoke You do not have because you do not ask
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And sometimes we don’t
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ask because we don’t believe
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that God can turn things around
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at the level that some of these people this cloud of witnesses this wind of Christianity passed
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once believed
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I was also talking with Doctor Christie this week
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because there’s another part of
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what I read that really captures my imagination
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that the gospel of Jesus Christ will heal most of the ills facing the world today and turn it into a paradise
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And that’s why I added that
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Who are you Why are you here And where are you going
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And a lot of times our answer to that is I’m going to heaven and that is an important part of that answer But where are you going I’m going to storm the gates of hell and set the captives free and see transform lives Where are you going We’re going to go from the darkness to the light from the power of the devil to the power of God Where are you going
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And Him And I were talking a lot about
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what we’re seeing today in America And one of the things that we’re
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seeing is fear
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and
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division coming
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for profit
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We may not realize
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it but that’s what’s happening The news or the media which was originally a prophetic calling like John the Baptist It’s not right for you to have your brother Philip’s wife It was a calling to call truth truth or call power
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to accountable to truth and standards of righteousness And so you know he’s considerably older than me
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And he said I remember
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when
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the people who
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had you know national
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platforms they would call people that this is who we’re supposed to be
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This is the character we’re supposed to live out This is what we’re supposed to be like This is the right thing This is the
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right way to go This is where we should be going You see what I’m saying
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But what happens is when you lose this vision of where we’re supposed to be
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going and you’ve
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got all these voices that are making profit because it gets
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viewership by sowing fear on any side It doesn’t matter which side whether it’s right
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or wrong It gets people focused on
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the sea
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gets it focused on the problems on the
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troubles on the trials It starts to rob people of mercy and grace and hope it starts to rob people of an expectation of transformation It starts to even create roots of bitterness where they are the enemy and they are destroying the future and it’s all their fault
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this woman that you gave me God
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you see how that’s working
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and it’s because we’re not lifting our eyes to a vision of where we should be going
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so that we can lead the people This is the way walking it
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This is the way of life This is the way of healing
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This is the way of division
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or or to bring unity from division Excuse me got it backwards But in
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some of these conversations have been really interesting because we keep looking to the government to be the savior When only Jesus can be the savior
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the only you see they understood the only one that can cause the murderer to murder no more is Jesus Christ The only one who can cause these people to be set free is Jesus Christ But what bondage is he unable to set people free from
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so much fear today about child molesters and human trafficking and drug lords right
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Government can’t save us from that heck some of them are probably profiting from it
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But if you were to attack the problem what would you attack the problem with
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the gospel of
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Jesus Christ It has the power to set the people free the power to break the yoke Lord send missionaries into these places of bondage and degradation and set the people free people like David Wilkerson did The gospel has never changed The power of his grace has never changed His power to set
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free has never changed
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but nothing else
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has the power to do it except the gospel
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So
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who do we Where where is the problem
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It’s the gospel
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The church doesn’t believe
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that what he has entrusted us has the power
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to set capitalist free and to heal nations and to deliver people from bondage that
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it is the hope we are the only ones that have been entrusted with what actually can make the difference
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It’s pretty awesome
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isn’t it Lord awake in your church to see you know you want to change You know like we believe when we went into Iraq that you know we’re bringing democracy to Iraq And I remember telling people it’s going to fail miserably Why that people
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aren’t ready for liberty They’re not ready for freedom
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In the old days you’d have to send missionaries to
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transform cultures
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Why Because you got to change people from the inside out and nothing has the power to change
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people like the gospel of Jesus Christ
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But the same principle that work to transform pagan lands is the same principles that will work
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to transform a rep pagan America
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missionaries didn’t go on to the mission field believing it was hopeless Missionaries didn’t go not believing that Jesus had the power to do it They went with the full expectation
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that what they were
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carrying and what they were doing and what they were involved in was going to succeed They nobody I mean what a worthless missionary that thought I’m going
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because I’m supposed to go But I don’t really think it would do any good That would be a worthless
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missionary But they actually dared to believe that what they had had the power to change old pagan lands
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and we need to get
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that kind of faith
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to re Christianize a rep ionized America
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It it really is no different
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it really is no different Oh Lord send missionaries raise up missionaries awaken missionaries in America
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I mean we’ve heard people come here and say America you need to wake up Why Because as America goes the world goes and if you fall many will suffer
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So God has put us in such a place for such a time as this But there has to be a revival there has to be
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an awakening and it has to begin with us
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We need the Holy Spirit
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That’s really where I wanted to get with This
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is the greatest connection with
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the wind of Christianity passed as a revelation by the word of God As I was saying
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Hebrews 12 1 through two Therefore we also since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses let us lay aside every weight and the sin which so easily ensnares us and let us run with endurance The race that has set us before us Looking to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross despising the shame and has sat down on the right hand of the throne of God
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We are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses That’s why I read Chesterton It’s not just a cloud of witnesses in our day It’s a great cloud of witnesses from the day that blood was shed and he said it was finished but it’s a great cloud of witnesses that went back to Genesis 3 15 when that first
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promise of the gospel was given a great cloud of witnesses throughout the ages who believed that God will do what he said he will do And they just counted it their whole life to believe in him and to follow him and to serve him and to worship Him no matter what was going on in the world
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We have that cloud of witnesses
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and they all did it by fixing their eyes upon the Lord
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And when we fix our eyes on the Lord being transformed to the renewing of our
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mind
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transform lives to transform the world
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It’s awesome
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isn’t it
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Second Corinthians
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to tie this all together
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He was talking
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about the Jews
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who read God’s Word every single day
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and they read it in their synagogues every single day And it’s really what we have in the church in this hour in America
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The word of God is being proclaimed in pulpits all across America It’s the word of God is going out through radio through TV through the internet but it’s having very little impact It doesn’t look like what we see with Athena
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in Paul when he so the connection between the Jews that Paul was dealing with and Christianity that we’re seeing today but their
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minds were blinded for until this day the same veil remains un lifted in the reading of the Old Testament But that’s the only scripture that they had when they wrote this Do you see what I’m saying
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Because the veil is taken away in Christ But even to this day when Moses is read a veil lies on their hearts Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord the veil is taken away Now the Lord is the spirit and where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty Do you hear the great liberation movement here
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But we all with unveiled face beholding us in a mirror The glory of the Lord are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory just
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as by the spirit of the Lord
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As we see him we become like him As we receive revelation we become like him be transformed through the renewing of your mind
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So I can’t bring it home enough revelation precedes revival It’s when we have a new fresh revelation of the Lord things start to change things start to transform And without that revelation there’s no breakthrough You are the Christ the Son of the living God I see it Lord I see it
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I will build my church upon people receiving revelation by the Holy Spirit of God
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And that is the daily bread that we need to experience It’s not a one time experience because you can never quit searching the unsearchable riches of Christ There’s always more of him to see There’s always more of him to know There’s always more of him to experience and you can receive revelation after revelation and you’ll go from faith to faith and glory to glory And that should be the normal Christian walk
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And when we quit receiving revelation we quit changing We start stagnating We need revival when we are not receiving regular revelation about who he is
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and what he is like and what he’s doing when we’re not receiving fresh revelation we are stagnating
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But you don’t have because you don’t ask
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there is nothing
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that will change
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your life more than a fresh revelation of Jesus Christ And
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so many people say well how do I get it Do I just do I just pray Yes you can God can give you a revelation through a dream through a vision through life circumstances through an encounter with the Holy Spirit He can give you a revelation through his body
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But we all have access to His word
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And the most basic way he can change your life is by having a conversation with Him
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Yes prayer is one conversation but the word of God is a conversation with God
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But when that you see but not when the veil is up
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When the veil is up we don’t receive revelation It just becomes a religious duty
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When the veil is up it’s a religious duty that makes us feel self righteous because we did it
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or makes us feel guilty because we didn’t
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that’s not the quality of authentic Christianity
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But when that veil is lifted we start reading scripture and it’s like God starts leaping
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off the pages of scripture
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and and it changes us it touches us it transforms us it answers our
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questions It starts when we wrestle with things and we don’t know the way out as we read
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earlier the word of God so that you may
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be fully equipped This is its own testimony
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and it’s true
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And when we dare to believe that and we go asking and seeking for God to reveal Himself to us He does
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and it changes our lives so that we can go change other people’s lives I just want to
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finish it with There is no bondage
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that any human being is experiencing that wasn’t dealt with at the cross
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There is no sin
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there is no evil there is no
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injustice There is absolutely
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nothing
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that has not been dealt with at the cross
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but God has given us the ministry of Reconciliation He has entrusted us with taking his work and proclaiming it to the nations and making it real That is the ministry and mission of the church of Jesus Christ It’s what we are called to do
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And it’s exciting
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lives can be transformed People can have an encounter with God People
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can go free
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and we need to keep proclaiming that until people start experiencing it and start testifying he is alive For all you have to do is open up your eyes to see Look how many lives have been transformed by this gospel of Jesus Christ
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That is normal Christianity That is our inheritance That is the wind of Christianity past that we can open up our sails and catch and it’s what we need to do to deal with the strongholds we are facing today
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They will fall before the word of the Lord
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Every stronghold will fall before the gospel of Jesus Christ That was the promise Jesus made upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail Now go and storm the gates of hell
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Who are you Why are you here Where are you going
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What I want to be doing is I want to be going and storming the gates of hell Proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ I want to be part of a worldwide liberation movement I want to see these things that are robbing people of life and humanity and dignity broken so that people can know the goodness of the Lord in the land of